Friday, November 16, 2007

Religious Duty or Bigotry?

This article was sent to me by me very internet savvy mum-in-law. This is a touchy issue & again I would like to stress that this posting is NOT meant to offend any sensitivites but rather encourage appropriate debate on a subject that is very likely to affect us here soon.

Please do leave a comment.

From The Sunday Times
October 7, 2007
Muslim medical students get picky
Daniel Foggo and Abul Taher

Some Muslim medical students are refusing to attend lectures or answer exam questions on alcohol-related or sexually transmitted diseases because they claim it offends their religious beliefs.
Some trainee doctors say learning to treat the diseases conflicts with their faith, which states that Muslims should not drink alcohol and rejects sexual promiscuity.
A small number of Muslim medical students have even refused to treat patients of the opposite sex. One male student was prepared to fail his final exams rather than carry out a basic examination of a female patient.
The religious objections by students have been confirmed by the British Medical Association (BMA) and General Medical Council (GMC), which both stressed that they did not approve of such actions.

Fear of offending is killing our culture
It will intensify the debate sparked last week by the disclosure that Sainsbury’s is permitting Muslim checkout operators to refuse to handle customers’ alcohol purchases on religious grounds. It means other members of staff have to be called over to scan in wine and beer for them at the till.
Critics, including many Islamic scholars, see the concessions as a step too far, and say Muslims are reneging on their professional responsibilities.
This weekend, however, it emerged that Sainsbury’s is also allowing its Muslim pharmacists to refuse to sell the morning-after pill to customers. At a Sainsbury’s store in Nottingham, a pharmacist named Ahmed declined to provide the pill to a female reporter posing as a customer. A colleague explained to her that Ahmed did not sell the pill for “ethical reasons”. Boots also permits pharmacists to refuse to sell the pill on ethical grounds.

The BMA said it had received reports of Muslim students who did not want to learn anything about alcohol or the effects of overconsumption. “They are so opposed to the consumption of it they don’t want to learn anything about it,” said a spokesman.
The GMC said it had received requests for guidance over whether students could “omit parts of the medical curriculum and yet still be allowed to graduate”. Professor Peter Rubin, chairman of the GMC’s education committee, said: “Examples have included a refusal to see patients who are affected by diseases caused by alcohol or sexual activity, or a refusal to examine patients of a particular gender.”

He added that “prejudicing treatment on the grounds of patients’ gender or their responsibility for their condition would run counter to the most basic principles of ethical medical practice”.
Shazia Ovaisi, a GP in north London, said one of her male Muslim contemporaries at medical school failed to complete his training because he refused to examine a woman patient as part of his final exams.

“He was academically gifted, one of the best students, but gradually he got in with certain Islamic groups and started to become more radical,” said Ovaisi.
“You could see there was a change in his personality as time went by. During the final exams he was supposed to treat a female patient in hospital. He refused to do it, even though it would have been a very basic examination, nothing intrusive.
“But he refused and as a result he failed his exams. I was quite shocked and disappointed about it because I don’t see there being anything in our religion that prohibits us from examining male and female patients.”

Both the Muslim Council of Britain and Muslim Doctors and Dentist Association said they were aware of students opting out but did not support them.
Dr Abdul Majid Katme, of the Islamic Medical Association, said: “To learn about alcohol, to learn about sexually transmitted disease, to learn about abortion, it gives us more evidence to campaign against it. There is a difference between learning and practising.
“It is obligatory for Muslim doctors and students to learn about everything. The prophet said, ‘Learn about witchcraft, but don’t practise it’.”


senorita.. said...

news of the world never fail to amaze me.. some are amazement of humans' capabilities.. some are amazement of ridiculous doings...

anfield devotee said...

Can you imagine the fuss that would have been kicked up if a Jewish doctor refused to treat a Muslim patient or fer a Hindu check out clerk at supermarket refusing to touch a can of corned beef.

This is the UK where there has been a rise of fundementalists groups among the youth who feel increasingly displaced in Western society.

Wonder when some ultra-radical will demand such reforms here.

Please understand I am NOT knocking Muslim sensibilities or their capability fer rational thought.

It is just shocking that highly educated med students in UK cannot make the distinction between religious practice & information gathering.

This is just regression.

premo said...

Bodoh bodoh bodoh. When will people learn? To have knowledge about certain subject matters doesn't necessarily translate to having experienced or even inclination to practice such things. The only thing these med school dropouts will be practising is ignorance.

Reality check: as friend once pointed out in jest, it's a rich white man's world - we all just live in it.

ISA said...

fooking idiots....hmm, just wondering, if the religion did really prescribe this ridiculous and fooking absurd way of thinking...then i surely cannot comment on your site anymore becoz u had posted some babi recipes..???

good old blighty has turned barmy...

anfield devotee said...

Isa: Someone was just commenting how these morons affect other Muslims - the smart/reasonable ones like yer goodself get tarred with the same brush.

premo: rich white man's world? Do you not tink it strange that all over the world you only hear of these Muslms who want the scenario to accomodate them. You rarely hear Buddhists/Hindus/Taosists etc insisting that greater society conform with their norms & standards,do you?

However, am sure there are many reasonable Muslims such as Isa who disagree with these fundamentalists & have no wish to conform to their set of ideals.

But again I reiterate me shock & horror that intelligent western educated youth are losing perspective in this way. They are not yer deprived, illiterate farmer from a village in the Malay heartland. We are talking bout London!

Mandeep Gill said...

hiya anfield!

Nice blog you got here.
Thanks for visiting mine yo.

anyway about your post. People are seriosuly taking things to a whole new level here.
golly dolly

anfield devotee said...

mandeep: I believe you are a medical student rite? So what's yer take on this issue, ethically speaking.

Mark said...

I was thought that life supersedes all, regardless of race or religion, no? I find it difficult to believe that any belief, religious or otherwise will disagree with this.

It's not a problem with religion really. Extremists tend to interpret things in their favour to justify their ridiculous beliefs.

theALBERTUS said...

It goes to show how stupidity mixed with religion can become more stupid. It really makes you think why Karl Marx said religion is an opiate of the masses.

I wonder what the religious extreme nutcases would say if aliens were to land on earth. Man what a sh'bang whaccamacallit this would be.

John Lennon did have a vision. Man do we miss him.

anfield devotee said...

mark: correcto mundo

albertus: eh? Ching Ching Chinaman also know John Lennon ah . . .? He he just joking brudder.

Aliens on earth? They already are brudder man, they already are . . .

constant_drama said...

Stupidity at its very best.

anfield devotee said...

constant_d: Unfortunately, their stupidity has consequences fer society at latge.